Wednesday, February 13, 2013

The Perspective of One 30-year old Virgin Bachelor on Marriage and Romance in the United States



The first thing that non-Christians who stumble upon this blog need to keep in mind while reading it is that I'm a religious wacko.  I believe that I am occasionally led by God, and that through following this leading, I can partner with God in the good that God is doing in the world (and I believe you can too, but that's another story).  This is the reason I get up in the morning. I am trying to devote my entire life to it.  The only thing that sets me apart from the guys who blow themselves up in public areas is that I believe God is a God of love who wants us to better love each other.  If I sound irrationally radical, please keep this in mind throughout what follows.  I also need to apologize to any readers of this blog for the length of this first post.  I will post much smaller posts in the future, but needed a little more space to properly kick start the discussion on this topic.  Also, you’ll need to read to the end to get my version of a Biblical view of love and marriage.

Anyway, when I graduated from high school, I felt that, for several reasons, God was calling me to celibacy.  I wasn't sure how long this calling would last, but I felt like I should treat it as though it were lifelong until further notice.  It has now been twelve years since I last had a romantic relationship or even went on a serious date.  There have been moments where this has been really hard.  I have had times where I felt very lonely, and very afraid of future loneliness (which is even harder).  I have felt awkward around families.  I have had restless evenings born of the worry that I will someday become unable to care for myself, and have no one who loves me to take care of me.  However, as hard as it has been at times, it hasn't been as hard as many people assume.  Any emotional difficulty always passes.  For the most part, my community and my church have assuaged my fears.  And there is no part of my decision to live a celibate life that I regret for long.[1]

Now, as a 30-year old heterosexual virgin bachelor, much of what I could write on the subject of marriage and romance in our culture can and should be ignored.  However, I do feel like, as much as is possible, I represent something of an outside perspective on this issue, and there are a couple things I have noticed that I would like to add to the broader discussion of the Evangelical community.

For me, the first fomenting of these ideas came from late '07 to late '08 when I was interning with Friends missionaries in Rwanda.  I used to believe that romance was a part of human nature.  As long as men and women existed in the same place, people would get to know each other and fall in love.  However, as I talked with a few young people in Rwanda, I remember being struck with some realities.  First, it was common for young men to reach a point in their lives where they would simply decide that they should be married, find a good candidate, get their parents to arrange things, and settle the deal all in the span of a month or two.  Second, divorce is much less common there.  Third, "love" between partners was hard for them to define (I imagine it often would be for us too).  Some people who I talked to had a sense that it was a friendship, but more often people made a direct correlation between the word “love” and sex.  All in all, Rwandans seem to see marriage as more of a social and economic partnership, than a spiritual and emotional union.  In a society where gender and age prescribe economic role, adult singles pose a significant (for poor families a single adult can be a dangerous) drain on the family economy.  So the western concept of what it means to “fall in love” is not a given in every culture.  It is certainly not in Rwandan culture.

My initial reaction to this realization was one of distaste.  I am embarrassed to admit my misconception that this was simply a way in which African culture was less developed than our North American culture.  I thought that as African Christians read their Bibles more, and allowed the gospel to transform them, their perspective on marriage would become more like ours.  Africans would begin to tell me about the passion of romance.  They would be able to, as we do, write intense emotional poems honoring physical beauty.  They would sing nostalgic songs about tiny romantic gestures.  They would talk about their "soul mates."  I no longer believe that.  

There actually are ways in which I do believe that the gospel will transform marriages in Africa.  For example, there are high levels of domestic violence and inequality in African relationships that are unbiblical and inappropriate for people who are submitted to Jesus.  As the gospel impacts people's lives, we should expect these things to change.  But I no longer expect their relationships to look more American.
Here in America, our view of romance is equally far from a Scriptural view.  It stems more from our pagan past than the Bible.  It seems like for a few weeks or so every year people are vaguely aware that our celebrations of Christmas and Easter have elements of ancient pagan festivals mixed into them.  However, we forget during the rest of the year that our western Christianity carries a great deal of baggage that comes more from our pagan forefathers than anything found in Scripture.  The most prevalent themes that got mixed into our gospel are the related themes of redemptive romance and redemptive violence.[2]  Paul Hiebert sums it up well by writing that “In the Indo-European worldview, the battle is the center of the story.  When it is over, the story is done.  The final words are ‘and they won (or were married) and lived happily ever after.’  But there is no story worth telling about the ‘happily ever after.’”[3] Besides the fact that European cultures almost always assigned gods to the internal/relational phenomena of romance and violence (which is rare for internal phenomena, since most gods are meant to describe external natural phenomena like wind, or the sun), the forces that move the story in many pagan myths recognize violence and romance between the gods as significant powers.  As Christianity began to overcome western culture, we began to adapt the gospel to fit the forms of our pagan worship that we were most hesitant to give up.  In some ways this is obvious.  Medieval Christians were taught to stop praying to the pagan gods like Cupid and Venus, and pray to St. Valentine instead.  But the most subtle ways are masked in the fact that we still tend to see romance and violence as the great powers that can be used to create change in the world.  This led to the myths of redemptive violence and romance.  

It is pretty easy to see that these myths are the two most powerful driving values behind most of our pop-culture media: TV, movies, literature, music, video games, etc.  For example, the website Box Office Mojo records the movies that have the top grossing opening weekends.  Every one of the top ten movies on the list champions one or both of the myths.  In addition to all the super hero/action movies, and movies like those in the Twilight series (whose value systems are obvious), there are more surprising movies like Shrek 2.  On the surface, this movie has little to do with the myths of redemptive romance and violence.  I am sure that the filmmakers saw themselves as promoting values like racial and cultural tolerance.  However, when you look at the forces that cause change in the story, the forces that are shown to have real power, it is romance (Fiona’s father learns to accept Shrek because he sees how “in love” his daughter is), and violence (when Shrek is falsely accused and arrested, his friends break him out of jail by creating a gingerbread monster that can temporarily overpower the guards, though not without loss and sacrifice).  In fact, the only movies that I noticed in the top 50 opening weekends of all time that challenge either of these myths, even briefly, are the Hunger Games (which briefly challenges redemptive violence while completely accepting redemptive romance), and the Passion of the Christ (which records an act that completely challenges every other power structure the world has ever known).  

While I have a lot to say about the destructive effect of the myth of redemptive violence in our culture, it is the myth of redemptive romance that has been on my mind recently.  Though they are certainly related, I will save the discussion of redemptive violence for another post.  What I am calling redemptive romance is the essential belief that a romantic relationship could give life meaning. It is the idea that our broken lives, out of synch with each other, with ourselves, and with creation, would be made happy, meaningful, and productive through a romantic (and usually, but not always, sexual) relationship.  Redemptive romance is one of the key objects of worship of our popular culture.  We worship it in song and story.  We appeal to it, and recommend others appeal to it as a solution to their problems.  For all intents and purposes, it is still a god that we worship today.

If it were only the popular culture that endorsed this value system, I don’t think we would have a problem.  In fact, we Christians would have a really powerful contrasting testimony in the post-Christian West.  Instead, we western Christians seem to function from within the same paradigm.  The only difference is that, for us, we cap the redemptive romance experience with marriage.  I don’t know how many times growing up, and even within the last year, I heard that “God had someone out there for me” (a promise not found in any Bible I’ve ever read).  But this idea comes out in more subtle ways as well.  It is frequently present in our youth programs, and especially when we teach sexual morality.  For example, the idea that God wants us to “save sex for marriage,” has an underlying implication that God wants us all to get married and eventually have all of our saved-up sex.  This is part of why so many Christian kids believe they are entitled to, that God owes them, a healthy marriage and a great sex life, and are devastated when it doesn’t come easy.  Perhaps more significant, it is implied in our programing.  Most larger churches have several discipleship groups geared towards couples or families of various ages.  But if someone is out of college and still single, they just get lumped in the “singles” group where the church often sees their singleness more like a problem to be solved than a valuable asset to the church.  And yet throughout church history singleness has proven to be incredibly valuable.  This may be part of the reason that for over a thousand years (and continuing to this day in some denominations) church leaders whether priests, monks, or nuns, were required to forgo family for the sake of the mobility and freedom that a strong commitment to ministry requires.  It has certainly proved effective.  It is impossible to overstate the impact of the monastic orders on global Christianity (ok, fine, maybe it’s just very hard.  I mean, it’s not as big as, like, the impact that Jesus had or anything).

Of course, there are some real problems that singles face which the church has a responsibility to address.  Humans need to exist in community.  They need older people to help mentor them, and younger people to mentor.  They need people who are like them to support them and different than them to challenge them.  It is through others that any person’s place in the community is defined.  The church has a responsibility to find ways to include them.  I love the movie Children of Men.  It paints a hypothetical picture of the world including the idea that without having a direct impact on children, adults lose hope for the future.  We have a human need to know that we are a part of a story that is bigger than ourselves: one that existed before us, one to which we will contribute, and one that will continue on after us.  We need to know our lives matter.  Single people are naturally the most disconnected from community.  Monastic orders used to provide an ongoing story for single people within the church.  The order existed before them, they created change both to and through it, and it continued on after them.  In our modern context, the Church could address the problem that singles face by existing as a community that functioned more like a family (In Matthew 12:29, Jesus endorses this view of the church by saying that his disciples were his “mother and brothers”).  But most churches do not really function like families.  What makes most singles groups so particularly dangerous is that they do almost nothing to address these problems.  In fact, they pull singles away from the rest of the community and put them in a group with very little stability or ongoing story.  Furthermore, as people marginal to the ongoing story of the congregation, with no story of their own, singles end up being disconnected from the very organization that some remain single to help equip. The Western church doesn’t know how to incorporate celibate singles who are not called to get married, settle down, and focus on the family.[4]

The North American Church has even taken this myth of redemptive romance and begun to read it into the Bible.  This is easy to do since the Bible really does have a lot to say about love, and also a great deal to say about marriage, family, and community.  I have been to probably a dozen Christian weddings where at some point someone will read a portion of 1 Corinthians 13.  I have never heard anyone point out that, while “keeping no record of wrongs” is undoubtedly a good practice for married couples, Paul was not talking about married couples when he wrote the passage.  Instead, the famous love chapter is really giving us a “more excellent way” for church communities to function in order that they accomplish their purpose.  Paul begins by sharing that churches should be structured so that the each individual’s spiritual gifts are valued and used to make them more effective (1 Corinthians 12).  But the more excellent way, an even more effective way, is for the church community to be established in love.  Love, from a Biblical perspective, can be summed up as desiring, and (as the closeness of the relationship allows) acting for the good of another person.  When God loves us, God desires and acts to bring what is good for us.  When we love Jesus, when we are his friends, we do as he commands (John 15:14).  His main command was that we love each other, and try to do what is best for each other, and the rest of creation.  This harmonizes with our general purpose as the Church in the world: to work with Jesus in doing the things that he is doing.  And the work he is doing is reconciling or redeeming people into relationship with God.  Consequently, we Christians have also “been given the ministry of reconciliation.” (2 Corinthians 5:19)  When the Bible speaks of love, the vast majority of the time, this is what it means.  It is indeed a beautiful redemptive love, but it is entirely non-sexual and unromantic in the Western sense.

Interestingly, greater participation in God’s work also seems to be the basis for marriage.  Most of us have heard the story of Adam and Eve, the story where God orchestrates the first marriage.  It is a story where Eve, who was taken from Adam as a rib is given back to Adam as a friend and coworker.  And “for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife,” and in some mystical sense beyond the merely sexual, “they will become one flesh.” (Genesis 2:24; Ephesians 5:31-2)  This is where we contrast what the Bible says about romance to the popular view, because the Bible does seem to say that romance exists and is a good thing.  It even has a fairly romantic view of marriage.  The difference is that romance is never the reason for marriage (and it is even less a reason for living or a life goal to be attained for its own merits).  Earlier in the story God gives his reasoning for the marriage.  He says that it is not good for Adam to be alone, and he will create a helper.  We often overlook that word, but the fact that a spouse is seen as a “helper” means that the individual (and later on in the Bible we will see that the community) has a task to accomplish.  The word “help” has no meaning without a goal or task.  The fact that in Adam and Eve’s specific case they will accomplish this task better as married people than as single people is given as the reason for the marriage.  In fact, this seems to be the main reason that God wants people to get married or approves of the marriage throughout the Bible (other examples are Abraham and Sarah, Ruth and Boaz, or Priscilla and Aquila).  I believe that it is the reason that the Church should want people to get married today.  If two people find that they can work with Jesus to bring God’s reconciliation to the world better as a family within the church community, instead of individuals within the church community, they should get married.  In cases where they cannot work with Jesus better as a couple, Jesus and Paul both show marriage to be a weakness (Matthew 19:12 and 1 Corinthians 7:7-9). Both marriage and singleness find their true meaning in people who are wholeheartedly devoted to advancing the Kingdom of God in the world.

We in the western church absolutely must learn to speak out against this myth of redemptive romance.  We must stand against the gods of popular American culture.  Our choice to engage romantically does not redeem our lives.  Our only redeemer is Jesus.  Our only God is the Trinity.  We must learn to use every asset available to us as people who seek to work with Jesus to expand the Kingdom of God.

As I continue to discuss the themes mentioned above, and continue to learn about effective ways that churches can use the asset of singles in their midst, I would be very happy to have the thoughts and insights of others.  Is anyone doing this well?  Does anyone have resources they would recommend on singleness, or on marriage for the sake of partnership in advancing the Kingdom of God?  Let the conversation begin!


[1] Many people I talk to about this assume that the modern accessibility of pornography has made celibacy easier, and is a contributing factor to the reality that 30 year-old bachelors are not as unusual as they used to be.  There certainly seems to be some truth to this.  Pornography seems to be widely used pretty much anywhere that an internet connection can reach these days.  I get why people find it so alluring, and I have, um, “experienced” my fair share of it, mostly in my high school years.  I am in no position to look down on anyone for their love of porn.  However, for the past several years I have taken steps to ensure that pornography consumption does not interfere with my commitment to the Kingdom of God and to celibacy.  My laptop has a program that sends regular updates to a couple of friends so that if I visit websites I shouldn’t, I have to have an awkward conversation afterwards.  All other internet capable devices I own have the internet features disabled.  So no, at least in my case, porn does not make celibacy easier.
[2] I’ll try to write more about how I became convinced of the pagan origins of the myths of redemptive violence and romance in future blog posts.  However, even if the myth of redemptive romance did not have pagan origins, it is both clearly unbiblical and clearly a driving force in our popular American culture.
[3]Paul Hiebert, Anthropological Reflections on Missiological Issues.  (Grand Rapids: Baker Books.  1994) 207.
[4] This is true for all adult singles.  I recognize that most Christian singles today have not made an active decision to be celibate.  However, in most cases they have actively chosen to pursue ministry or life goals other than marriage.  Though they have not actively chosen singleness, their Kingdom values have indirectly led them there, and they have willingly accepted singleness as a consequence.  In my experience, adults who make marriage a goal will find a way to get married, even when they clearly should not. 

12 comments:

  1. Philip--great writing! thanks for taking the time to do this. Two thoughts: 1) i don't think i had ever heard the expressions "redemptive romance" and redemptive violence", but i think you have captured something very important with those phrases. Thank you! 2) i would take umbrage with the comment, that "pornography can make celibacy easier." i think that implies a reductionist view of celebacy as merely avoiding a physical sexual relationship. If we look at adultery (and fornication) the way Jesus defines it, then pornography helps not at all. indeed, the objectification of the individuals involved--both participants and observers-- possibly constitutes a greater more destructive sin, me thinks. i don't think you would argue for porn--but i just wanted to go on record about that one :). Thanks for tackling such an under recognized subject--Keep writing!!!!

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  2. Thanks Alan. I've read the phrase "myth of redemptive violence" in a couple places. As far as I know, I made up the term "myth of redemptive romance," though the implications of the term have been expressed (and probably more clearly) by others in the past.

    I completely agree with everything you wrote about porn. I was hoping to preemptively cut off a misconception that I frequently hear whenever single adults are discussed (in and outside of church): that people don't need to get married these days because premarital promiscuity is socially acceptable, as is watching unlimited, free high-speed porn. Consequently, I flippantly addressed an issue that should be taken more seriously, and probably addressed more publicly in our churches. Using porn is unhealthy for society and the individual (mind, body and soul), and inherently violates a commitment to celibacy (as you, Jesus and I would define it). This has been my experience, and there seems to be research to support that. I apologize for my careless word choice.

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  3. Excellent! With "the myth of redemptive romance" you've put into words something who's unfortunate effects I've pondered for some time as well.

    Perhaps especially, I liked two themes: 1) Church as a family, and 2) Romance/relationship with purpose (as opposed to *as* a purpose). There's some real depth in those thoughts!

    And I loved how you emphasized through it all a person's wholeness in Christ. So easily people get sucked looking for wholeness in *things* and *activities*, when in Christ it is theirs already, batteries included!

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  4. There is a need for balance, for which there is some attempt in this post but perhaps not enough. There is a "myth of redemptive romance" which contains some elements that are not consistent with the Gospel message, I believe. And yet some elements are, and romantic love is presented in scripture in a positive light. There is also at least the germs of an idea that some are called to celibacy.

    The post is correct that the church often gets things wrong, and just assumes that marriage is for everyone. When it does that, it winds up trying to take the place of God rather then being an instrument to help each person in the church to discern their call in this area of life as well as others.

    Currently I am in a book discussion group where we are discussing Chris Webb's The Fire of the Word, which is about allowing scripture to capture us and really feel the Presence. Currently our group is in the part that focuses on God as lover, and the daily readings are in the Song of Songs. There is a good possibility that much of the content of this book of erotic poetry has "pagan" origins, but it was placed in the canon of scripture - for a reason, apparently. I wonder what your view of Song of Songs is.

    Also, I think the cultural aspect brought up might be fleshed out more which might change some of the reaction. My own wife is from a different culture, one in which arranged marriage was common. There a goal of marriage was to have the best partner in terms of class. My wife was married off to someone of higher station in life. Never mind that there were already indications that he might be a bad choice - he was divorced in a culture where that was not very acceptable. He turned out to be quite abusive, and she wound up fleeing the country to get away - and her family would have nothing further to do with her because she rejected a "good" marriage in their terms because they had married her up. I think abuse is higher in cultures where marriage is not imbued with the idea of romantic love (an over-emphasis on romance also leads to problems, it is true).

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  5. Thanks for your post, Bill. I am fascinated by your idea that domestic violence is higher in countries where romance is not emphasized as an element of marriage. That might be true, but I feel like that’s a big claim which only looks at one element of a multifaceted issue. I wonder if patriarchy in the home doesn’t have more to do with it. There seems to be more about control and power in abuse than simply a lack of romance. The main thing that makes me doubt is that there are high levels of abuse in our own culture. I just did a quick google search and found a half dozen news articles that all seem to agree that about one in five American women have been sexually assaulted, and one in four have been physically abused by a partner. I realize that, as high as those numbers are, they’re not as high as the numbers in a lot of other countries. I have heard from people who minister to rape victims in one Latin American country that well over half of the women in that country have experienced abuse. My experience with Costa Rican culture, from the few years I spent there as a kid, makes me think that they also worship at the altar of redemptive romance (though not as much as we do). Still, I would be interested in reading if anyone has ever done any research on the relationship between domestic violence and romance. Even though it’s probably not the whole story, you may be on to something.

    I also appreciated your bringing up Song of Songs. I’m not a Bible scholar, but I do have a couple of thoughts on the Book. First, I think I remember reading that, going back almost 3000 years, the book was read around Passover when Israel was supposed to be contemplating its relationship to a loving God (Bernard of Clairvaux didn’t invent the idea that it was meant to be read, at least in part, as allegory. How did that idea get so out of fashion?). Second, I think part of the purpose of a holy book of erotic poetry is to tell people that sex and romance aren’t bad. Please don’t misread my earlier post. By saying that redemptive romance is a myth, I don’t mean to say that romance is bad, or not real (I am getting uncomfortably close to the line of writing on things I know nothing about here). They seem to be real and good things. They seem to be things that can be easily recommended to any married couple. I just mean to say that they cannot really bring wholeness and purpose to life (at least, not for long). Casual observation of American society confirms this. As a Christian, I believe that life only finds purpose and wholeness in relationship with Jesus. Third, to a certain extent, I think that the way in which God’s people are to relate to the world changed when Jesus came. A big part of Ancient Israel’s mandate was simply to be a thriving people group through which, eventually, all the peoples of the earth would be blessed (Gen 12:3) . Healthy marriages are inherently good when you are trying to establish a people group in the ancient near east, and then preserve the line of every family, clan and tribe. On a more basic level, they are inherently good if the goal is to “fill the earth and subdue it.” However, when Jesus comes and declares the day of the Lord, creates the Church as a family, and gives the great commission, some things change in the way God’s people relate to the rest of the world. Some things that were inherently good get bumped down a little. Marriage can still be a good thing, but it is secondary to working with Jesus to reconcile the creation to God. Instead, American churches frequently look at the matter as if marriage (being financially stable, and supporting the family, and being happy, moral people) where the foundation of our lives, and working with Jesus to inaugurate the Kingdom of God were something that we could do in our spare time. We are misinterpreting the text if we believe that Song of Songs supports such a view.

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  6. I really appreciate your writing and critical thinking here Philip. I'll follow your blog in the future. I've seen the benefit that singleness can add to a life of ministry. In my experience, singles have so much to offer to the work of ministry, without the distractions of family. Personally, when I got married, my emotional maturity was at a place where basically I was choosing marriage rather than to burn with desire. I love my wife deeply, and thank God for her. However, I fully recognize your point about the advantages of singleness when applied to ministry life.

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  7. Hey Philip! I'd like to echo my appreciation for your heartfelt words here...I caught wind that you wrote a blog post and I was very curious to hear your thoughts as a single guy seeking Christ (like me), that has been single 4 times more years than I have been (comin' up on 3 years now)...

    You make some great points here, but I'd also agree with a lot of what Bill said about there being a balance to be found between these things..I'd love to grab lunch with you sometime next week if you'd be down to have a discussion about it, but I'd like to throw a few ideas/concepts out there for ya to mull over.

    off the top of my head, here's something that I've been pondering a lot...regarding whether or not constantly pushing ourselves to maintain celibacy may be missing the point, after a time..

    In the beginning, God made Adam to be in a personal relationship with Him. Directly. Physically! God was *in the garden* with Adam and (as I've come to understand it- allegory or otherwise) God could see Adam, and Adam could *also* see God. And yet, Adam was STILL lonely, even though there was no sin in the world at this point.

    Here comes the important part- God LOVED Adam, and He didn't like seeing Adam so lonely...longing for companionship..so what did God do? He created a companion- a woman- a wife, for Adam..to be his helper and friend.

    So Adam and Eve became one flesh- one heart, by way of sexual intimacy, *AND* they were also BOTH in *direct* *unhindered* contact with God! And this was so- the two made one, also one with God, until they disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit, which got them removed from the Garden and separated from God.

    My thought, without writing pages and pages explaining it here, is that a truly God-honoring marriage should not detract from our relationship with Jesus, but rather should deepen it, strenthen it, and also allow all of our efforts in life and furthering God's kingdom to bear much fruit ("when two or more are gathered in His name..")


    So the question I would pose, for you to ponder, until we can talk more, is this:

    If a marriage is truly God-honoring and FULLY Christ-centered, could a marriage, by definition, take away from our focus on Jesus?

    To honor God, we must *first* love God with ALL our heart, ALL our mind and all our soul and strength, and THEN our neighbors, as our self. If it is honoring to God, how can it break the first, most important law, which is loving God with ALL that we are?

    I think a marriage covenant relationship between a man and woman will happen once God sees that we are at a place where such a relationship would not detract from our love from Him, but rather be in harmony with it, and deepen- and I truly believe that with all of my heart =)

    Don't go looking for a wife, but if you love all people equally as a single man, and you see that she does the same- that is, you both love God with all that you are, it'll happen..God'll put her in your path..any effort you put out, will be reciprocated. My last thought- part of me is afraid of reaching out to someone, but then again, God also reached out to us. But then again again, it wasn't so forced..He reached out, but then we also wanted to be with Him..there is balance to be found in all of this..I'm sure it's possible that some of us could have been made to be single, but I can't help but wonder if that's really God's will for us, or if it's possible that we are just so terrified of the idea of being married, that we decide it wasn't meant for us (I've struggled with that, too)..

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    1. Hi *In Love We Matter* :),
      I would be happy to get lunch with you to talk about this, in fact I think we are already due to meet to talk about video cameras, right? However, I’ll comment on a couple of your thoughts here.

      1) Let’s not read our own cultural perspective into Genesis. The passage does not say that after God walked with Adam he had pity on his loneliness and decided to make a wife for him. The passage says that first God gave the man a task: till and keep the garden, and according to the Gen 1 account (which was probably not originally meant to be read alongside Gen2 and 3, but still), God also tells him to be fruitful and multiply, to fill the earth and subdue it, etc.). Then, God comments that “it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.” So God had given the man a task. God realizes that the man can’t do it alone. God makes a helper “fit” for the man, or a helper that matches his need in completing the task. A good general rule for scripture is, read what it says, not what we think should go between the lines. This is hard to do, and sometimes we need our brothers and sisters to keep us honest on this. At least, I know I need them.

      2) If I restate your question as “if a marriage were truly God-honoring and FULLY Christ-centered, would it, necessarily, take away from our focus on Jesus?” at this point in my life (though I don’t have any experience with this), I don’t think so. As I wrote in the big post, I think that it is entirely possible for marriages to be great, Kingdom-enhancing assets, with their own strengths that they bring to the work that Jesus is doing in the world. We would be wrong to assume that this implies that marriage is inherently a positive step in the first place.

      3) The undertone that I am reading in your question (maybe reading into your question, you’ll have to correct me if I’m wrong) is that loving God and neighbor is the most important commandment. Anything else we do, as long as we do it while completely loving God and neighbor, is totally cool. That’s only true if we use a Biblical definition of love. If we look at a loving God and neighbor with a western definition of love, our love is mostly internal good emotion. Our western interpretation of this passage is that we should think of God and neighbor with totally, completely, violently good and pure feelings. If we do this as we go about our lives, then we’re all set. However, if we take this view, we end up with something more like Moralistic Therapeutic Deism (check it out on Wikipedia, man, Wikipedia is awesome) than real Christianity. In the Biblical view, love is about will and action, not directly about emotion (Even in the passage you sited, how can a person feel good emotions towards God with all their strength, i.e. their physical body)? Love of God and neighbor calls us to act in God’s best interest which is in the best interest of our neighbor who God also loves. Our entire lives become forfeit in submission to the specific callings that Jesus has in mind for us. It is impossible to “get right with Jesus,” and not live the rest of our lives in total submission to the work that God is doing in the world. I try and fail at this daily. Praise be to God who mercifully allows me to try again, and sometimes chooses to graciously use me to really advance His Kingdom!

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  8. Philip,

    You're the man. I support you to do more writing. That being said..

    Hmm I think (look out everybody!) that we do have major problems in these areas in America. I've seen it for a long time now. But especially I mean your said idea of 'redemptive fomance' (I'm leaving that typo bc its funny and humbling. No offense to you Philip). So its clear to me that many people in their hearts feel like: if only I were married I would be safe. It is like a salvation theme to us at times. That only causes problems. The only love that redeems is as you said - the deepest and most real and scandalous love of Jesus Christ... Its not the love of a wife that heals me. Its not her that I could turn to when I am most desperate. She is not the end of the story but a transition, for me, from man to husband and then potentially to Father. We start a community! I am being added to! Holy moly... Its not to receive that we should marry - though we will get some things out of it for sure... probably more than we all bargain for but my point as well is that we need to understand that a right mindset is to recognize that we are ready to *give* love if we are truly ready to marry.

    Theres a lot of myth in our minds on the subject of marriage for the uninitiated I think. I once had a chat about how one friend thought marrying a woman would be the end of his struggles with lust. Its just not true, lust doesn't cower at the sight of marriage (maybe a little) but it works to break that marriages' trust bond.... Think about that if you never have single guys (like me obviously).

    Anyways... ranting concluded.

    Aw yea, violence. I do think both these ideas are redeemable. God can use these for his glory. I'm more clear on how he wants to use the battle part. Well, you said redemptive violence but I want to use the word battle to change the focus off of an enemy per say and onto a struggle, challenge and so on. I believe God has one prepared for all of us. At least one big one and I dont mean against a physical aggressor necessarily. But I have read stories about International Justice Mission and their fighting against slavery and prostitution - literally breaking people out of it. I forget the details but this isn't my focus - look it up, IJM. For me, I am getting this vision from God to do counseling. I hope to be a part of redeeming the arts from sinfulness into righteousness... Thats going to be a battle and I'm guessing I will catch demonic attacks from time to time. Not only that but people disliking what I'm doing and opposition and all that. We all have a purpose. It's up to us and God to work out what it is and get into it or not. We do hunger to prove ourselves able, victorious. There is a task left undone with our name on it I believe. Thank you Lord for Challenge and purpose.

    Well thats me Phil. God bless, thanks for sharing.

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  9. Thanks for posting, Dom. And amen. I'm grateful for your point of view. :)

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  10. you make some good points philip- lunch would be great! i mean, after all, we still have to go to (wait for it)...Walmart *GASP* to get a tv screen haha..ok..maybe we can go to Target haha =)

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